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User accounts in a NT 4.0 domain and Win98 users

Published by: anonym 2010-03-15

  • Documented is that you can set up a users home directory to be local (c:) or pointing to a share. You choose connect home drive to "some letter" lets say "w" and then tpye the path e.g. \fredusersusername. This works fine when you are connecting to the network from a NT 4.0 workstation, but not so well when connecting from win98. Also documented is that for Win98 users you have to attach a logon script that has the following syntax: @echo off net use w: /home exit "W" is just the letter I chose. I created the above on a subnet where our PDC is and it works fine there. Any workstaion I log on to on that subnet with the account that is set to have it's home dive be w: \servernameusersusername no problem. I also copied the above script to each BDC that could be validating the user. But for some reason it does not run at logon on any other subnet than the present one. I have syncronized the domain controllers. This still does not help. How can I get the users home drive as listed in the users account to run the script above anywhere with in the domain.
  • Toms Hardware Forums::
    (12/14/2004) User account security in domain environment (04/14/2004) unable to use keyboard to login win nt 4.0 (09/09/2005) Login script not executing
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/Windows-2000-NT/relative-subject-220539.htm
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  • I'm sure it's an obvious place to start, but.. Are you sure the permissions on both the directory/file and the share are set correctly to allow read and execute permissions?


  • Did my previous suggestions help in any small way? (i.e. permissions and error messages from the event log?)


  • WINS on each Subnet?? I'm hoping you mean, "WINS on ONE computer (possibly replicated to others) which EVERYONE in the domain connects to.. Right?


  • I did not work today. I will test your ideas out on Monday.


  • The only thing I can think of is that there is a NetBIOS replication problem between networks. WINS is a database which allows for communication between subnets with NT and legacy Windows OS's. My thought is that you just haven't quite nailed down the NetBIOS issues on the network. But, as to what exactly, I just can't think of the actual solution right now. But, hopefully some other researcher can attempt to find the answer. Legolas-ga


  • Yes both Wins and DHCP on each subnet. Each subnet has it's own BDC and it does validate the users on that subnet. So in my example \Fred would vaildate users in that building which is it's own subnet. The wins is configured to the subnet first then to the main building where the PDC is. \Kramer is where the PDC is located and it too validates users on that subnet. Also is Kramer of Fred were down then any other bdc on any subnet will and does validate the user. I know that this is more than you asked to be clarified, hope this helps. kman
  • Toms Hardware Forums::
    (08/19/2005) Parent/Child domain accounts and Exchange. (07/30/2004) Policys in a NT 4.0 Doamin for XP Clients (04/15/2004) WINS Missing 1b record
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/Windows-2000-NT/relative-subject-197148.htm
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  • unstable, Not quite what I meant. Since this whole thing has been difficult to explain I will now put the real life variable into play. We have 27 schools, each school has it's own BDC and is on it's own subnet. Teachers with a second account, a classroom logon account, want to have a drive mapped at logon when they have their students logon to a pc in the classroom of lab. We are talking k-5 here. I have in the domain created accounts for them and choose w: as their home drive with the path being specific to the user on the subnet. e.g. Alcott school server Fred \fredusersusername. Since these are Win98 clients I have to attach a logon script to their account which contains @echo off net use w: /HOME . For reasons that I cannot explain, the logon when on the subnet with the PDC which is not Fred can authenticate the user and attach the home drive w:\fredusersusername. When I logon at the school Alcott Fred does validate my logon but does not run the script and therefore does not map the home drive. I have copied the script above to the netlogon share of all BDC in the district. I hope this helps. legolas, I am having a hard time thinking about a netbios problem being in play here since on all the subnets I can attach to network resources distict wide. Viz, I can browse network neighborhood and see all resouces on in the domain. kamn
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    force lof off users in a domain after xx:xx (05/11/2004) Export User Accounts in Windows 2000 (02/16/2005) Remove a NT BDC from a Windows 2000 Domain
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/Windows-2000-NT/relative-subject-190409.htm
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    (08/27/2004) Ugrade from NT 4.0 Workstation to Win2K (04/25/2005) Domain user cant change her password from a domain logon
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  • Are you using WINS and/or DHCP? Can the Win98 machines NORMALLY connect to the server that you wish them to connect to as their home directory? I mean, can you go into Network Neighbourhood and browse for the server?


  • kman, please correct me if i am wrong, but you want a user in the other subnets to be able to autologon to a data directory on your main subnet (PDC)? but strangely you have arranged for the BDCs to authenticate each individual user, wouldn't any settings on that BDC dictate it to look within the individual subnets and thus ignore or do not understand it needs to drop what it would normally do and straight away connect to your main subnet? my guess, is if you need to allow folks to log into their home directory on PDC, might as well set up that everybody logs into PDC via their BDCs (i.e. make the other sub-net server as dummies - but what a waste of resources though).


  • legolas, those are both excellent ideas. i will check the logs on the bdc on the subnet that is vailidating them. And there is an error message that comes up but only if I run the command that is in the logon.bat from the run line: net use w: /HOME I will post this too. Unfortunately, I have to take a day off, just to get my work done, and won't be able to address this until tomarrow. ( work most Saturday's)


  • Oh, and... are there any event logs that might give a clue as to a warning or an error on logon? Could you post the content of the warnings/errors here?


  • I mean that each subnet, 27 in all, have a domain controller (BDC) and each one runs WINS for the subnet, BUT the secondary WINS server for each subnet point to the PDC which does repliate to all other domain controllers. Think of a spoke and wheel configuration. And since each BDC does DHCP for their own subnet each client can be told where to go to resolve names, in this case the building's BDC. Perhaps to further clarify on all of the subnets anyone can browse the entire network for available resources. I hope that this is helpful, if not I will gladly answer more questions.





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