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overcast days and a polarizer

Published by: jack 2009-01-07

  • Lighting Tips - Picture America::
    Country road in the rain. Overcast Day - through the windshield of a car This shows the effects of a polarizer on the sky in a color photograph.
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    So i know on overcast days and when shooting color film, the colors of your subject become more saturated, and the light adds as a natural diffusser. What sort of effects can i expect when using a polarizer filter on a overcast day?


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    ...interesting question
    Welcome to Jack Graham Photography::
    Metering off different areas, looking at your histograms often product better images on non-overcast days. On sunny days, get into the waterfall area early
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    Can't say i've actually tried it - maybe someone will be along soon who has and can provide the definitive answer

    However, from my knowledge of how polarisers work with light waves, the nett result will be a loss of between 1 - 2 f-stops of exposure without a discernible difference in colour result ... but i stand to be corrected

    Using B&W film, you might expect a slight increase in contrast. With this medium, polarisers have similar affect to a red filter

    Your comment regarding overcast days (diffused light) increasing colour saturation leaves me slightly confused:
    How to Shoot video and film in a car.::
    BUT, overcast days really screw up hood shoots because of the reflection on the windshield. You're gonna need a polarizer for the lens too.
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    File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTMLOVERCAST DAYS. Take out as much dull sky as possible when composing POLARIZER. Sunglasses for the camera. A filter, when turned,
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    Colour saturation, or the intensity of a subject's colour, is relative to the volume/amount of light it reflects. Usually, to increase colour saturation on overcast days, overexposing the frame (adding more light) will achieve that affect

    Thanks for your question - gives me something to test & play with
    Mountain Trail Photo::
    Make sure to bring your circular polarizer to darken skies and remove any glare It's best to shoot the waterfall on a wet and overcast day, although at
    http://www.mountaintrailphoto.com/article_sept08_westvirginiaautumn.htm
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    :)

    e_


  • it was overcast here today and i took them both off(UV and circular polarizer). We shall see the answer to your question in a couple o' days!


    md


  • You really don't need it on such days unless you are shooting through glass and want to eliminate reflections.


  • Hi, thanks for the replies. Well the reason why i asked the question was because yesterday it started out as an overcast day, but after the clouds passed it became sunny. Shooting with the polarizer and the sun to my side, the blue sky and clouds had a very dramatic look to it. I guess on an overcast day its better to go out and shoot, and find out for yourself. Really that is the only way to do things anyway. Also the thing about colors becoming more saturated was something i read off a site. I dont think opening up a stop would make that difference, but if you careful not to include the sky, colors would stand out more, rather then becoming saturated. Or maybe theres a filter out there that will take care of that for you.

    Sorry for the long post.


  • the thing about colors becoming more saturated was something i read off a site..
    hmmm, okay


    I dont think opening up a stop would make that difference
    You might like to try it out¹


    if you careful not to include the sky, colors would stand out more, rather then becoming saturated
    A common mistake beginners make when shooting landscapes is to meter through the lens and include the sky - or too much of it - and wonder why they have lost shadow detail and the vibrant (saturated) colours¹

    Reason is they've "underexposed" the shot - their meter fooled by the sky


    maybe theres a filter out there that will take care of that for you
    Don't know, not one i'm aware of, maybe there is - but simply "overexposing" the shot will achieve this at no cost and without degrading the image with more glass between subject and film


    HTH!

    :)

    e_

    ¹NOTE: presumption is made we're discussing colour negative film - with transparency (slide) the reverse would be true





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